Curse

Nevin · Jan 18, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by Ekelon

Splinter Weapon

Not since the nerf.

MMSDome · Jan 18, 2008, 07:23 PM // 19:23

Ursan Blessing, please dear lord remove this from the game all together -_-

Racthoh · Jan 18, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by Nevin

Not since the nerf.

People stopped using Splinter Weapon??

carnage-runner · Jan 18, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Go PVP... WoH is overused like a mother Red Engine Goring Red Engine Gorer. Same with Ride the Lighting no adays. I see at least 1 of those every 2 or 3 games.

Flem · Jan 18, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Some of these responses confuse me. How can the staple of the class ever really be "over-used"? Any built in self heal for melee is practically req. Warriors without healing sig, Rangers without troll, etc.... those are people I wouldn't want to party with as a monk. The "I won't help you if you don't help yourself" mentality still rings true.

That's like saying that assassin's over use daggers or something. It just doesn't make sense.

undeadgun · Jan 18, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54

LoD was on every monk's bar before the nerf, the reason is just simple:because it is a better skill. you wanna use Healing Hands in PvP? go for it.

the_jos · Jan 18, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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I think a better measure is to decide what skills are "Overused" & work backwards or are these skills judged to be perfect?

The question is, are skills overused because they are overpowered, because they are the best in most situations or because they are the best of the worse.
Or is it about skills that are used by 'ignorant' players?

Yichi · Jan 18, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by carnage-runner

... WoH is overused like a mother Red Engine Goring Red Engine Gorer...

Because this is the only decent healing elite there is to be able to "red bar" in this game since the LoD nerf.

englitdaudelin · Jan 18, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29

Welll.... Rodgort's Invocation / Rodgort's Mark seem pretty common. Meteor/Meteor Shower/ Fireball... I feel like they're on every PuG Ele's skillbar. I can't complain much for what Meteor Shower does, but that 25e is a lot...
My rit and ranger overuse splinter, even since the nerf. It STILL puts a hurting on clustered up mobs.
Bloodsong on my rit, but again, it has a purpose...keeping me lightly healed, and meeting the condition for some channeling spell spamming.

Not overused: Glimmering Mark. :P

TheRaven · Jan 18, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

I have to say Ursan Blessing only because if you don't have it you cannot play with others. You must H/H. Ursan is a great skill, so for that reason it isn't "overused" to have it on your bar, but if it becomes a requirement to be included in any group then that is definitely overuse.

My Ele has recently finished NF and so I went to visit the DOA. I'd never been there and was looking forward to checking it out. Unfortunately I could not find a pug. Several groups were forming asking for Ursan warriors and monks. I saw a non-Ursan warrior trying to find a group and about 5 people told him to leave or get Ursan. He replied that he didn't own EotN. Many folks then said that only Ursan warriors or monks could do DOA. All others had no business even being in the Gate of Anguish.

I left. I could tell that my nuker would never find a group so now I'm working on getting my warrior thru NF so that again, I might explore the DOA area. This isn't right. I'm sure there were sucessful groups beating the DOA quests before EotN was published.

EDIT: Englitdaudelin, you'll be happy to know that only 1 of the 5 Nukes you named is a staple on my nuker's bar and that's Fireball. I won't say that I don't use MS on occasion, but it isn't my favorite. I prefer Echo/Savanna Heat. I run with 102 energy and rarely dip below 40 energy. It's nice not having a 25e spell.

Jenn · Jan 18, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

I'm pretty sure this thread is the pre-cursor to aNet's next big nerf bat. Thanks guys

But in light of the topic at hand, anything spirit-ish for spiritway.

trobinson97 · Jan 18, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by Vaal 84

I can only really answer for a ranger. but i never leave home without broad head arrow. and since eotn pain inverter is a also a mainstay in my builds. I wouldn't class them as overused though, i would argue that they are simply better skills than some of the others.

vaal

For me, speaking as a ranger, I'd say savage/distracting shot are never left behind. Ever.

Edit: Is it me, or do threads like this pop up with an ulterior motive (i.e. complain about Ursan)? Lol.

Burst Cancel · Jan 18, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure

Something is not overused, by definition, if it has to be used. Anything you dont have to use, is then a candidate for overuse. Whether or not its worth using is largely irrelevant.

Plainly incorrect. 'Overused' implies that use is not commensurate with its merit. See: Overvalued, Overrated.

Ergo, it's largely impossible to overuse skills that are categorically better than all other options.

Sirius-NZ · Jan 18, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21

As expected, this thread is useless while there is still disagreement about what "overused" actually means.

stretchs · Jan 18, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Good lord enough with the UB whine, go play in the streets or be constructive to a thread.

Prior to it's nerf LoD was probably one of the most overused skills in all of gw. Now Shock, WoH, Animate *.

dont feel no pain · Jan 18, 2008, 09:46 PM // 21:46

*hides behind anti-flame sheild*

TheLichMonky · Jan 18, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06

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Originally Posted by stretchs

Good lord enough with the UB whine, go play in the streets or be constructive to a thread.

Prior to it's nerf LoD was probably one of the most overused skills in all of gw. Now Shock, WoH, Animate *.

Lol, good skills get overused because they are good... nerf one and a new skill will take its place until anet nerfs that one

bhavv · Jan 18, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Searing flames, but i love it with my ToF paragon.

I dont use AoEs like meteor shower or savannah heat anymore in PVE, but I use earth ones against destroyers. I just love -33% damage all the time from setting things on fire ^^

GrimEye · Jan 18, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Some skills are overused for the simple reason there is very little alternative skills that can "equal the efficiency" of "overused" skills.

To solve the problem of "overused", you must provide an "alternative". Of all the 1235 skills in GW, how many skills are actually useful and efficient that you can put in your skill bar of Eight? 10 Percent? Then divide that by 10 professions.

This is why ANET's action on updating "underused" skills is a good direction. Its a proactive move than reactive. Doing it littlle by little is a smart move too so every update wont turn to whinefest on both sides.

Maybe time is against ANET concerning GW1, but its a better solutions than be reactive to ghosts and demons conjured by some people.

My take.

freaky naughty · Jan 18, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

*hides behind anti-flame sheild*

It's overused because it's the best not because of noobs.